Nevertheless, for many readers and contributors to this forum, there are things in that entry which they might not agree with; others might not bat an eye. The main texts, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, contradict each other over 3,000 times in the gospels alone, and they disagree with the ' Majority Text' in 13,000 places. Being added to the church of Christ 2014. after having many different translations. Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! Just a thought, but if the Sinai Bible was a fourth century record of the New Testament, and the modern canon came about under Athanasius at around 390AD, then doesnt it suggest that a lot of our modern Bible was filled in by the likes of Athanasius late in the fourth century, just before the text was canonized. Excellent information. Perhaps I will have the opportunity of sharing this with you in another article. I bless you in the Name of the Father, the SON and the HOLY Spirit. No one said they were quoteing Joe but passing on what they remembered. And remember this is a group of objective people, not just my own thoughts. Interpretation is of God also. It has commonly been argued, for at least 200 years (John Bengel, d. 1752, was the first), that no matter what Greek text one may use it will not affect any doctrine. This is history. Your email address will not be published. the truth and power of God]. I just love it when people cannot think outside of their TV dinner box and read ONE thing and run with it, yet they never believe what the Bible says. Being in the ultimate best group (your current religion is the correct one of course) is a very powerful aphrodisiac. Since then, many editions of the Greek New Testament have been published. The story of John 7 is missing in the Codex S. But in other manuscripts it appears. Ancient manuscripts? Ronald S. Hendel of the University of California, Berkeley, argues that scholars can reconstruct a more original Hebrew Bible text if they " combine the best from each tradition .". How is it that these ancient manuscripts lay forgotten (Siniaticus) or ignored (Vaticanus) for 1500 years or more? They play both sides sometimes it is original and sometimes not. This article lists the different verses where the codexes conflict with the King James Bible (KJV). And we have very good reason, from Pauls letters, most of which are accepted as authentic even by non-Christian scholars, that the earliest disciples believed that they had seen the risen Jesus on multiple independent occasions and were willing to die for that belief. https://www.faraboveall.com/015_Textual/SPLIT%20TEXTS_JETS_current.pdf. In the 19th century, almost all Bible translations had a spurious Trinitarian addition at 1 John 5:7. The consequences of all this are serious and are far reachiing for the future of the Church.. I recommend The forging of Codex Siniaticus by Bill Cooper. I can answer the first question here in part from my own experience. After a cursory review, I count eight mistakes in this little article. Jesus was in the OT, in Genesis 1:26 God said let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness, this would be funny language for God alone and by himself to be using. I had looked at a photo of the end of 2 Cor 13 in the CS, and it ended with verse 13, and the English translation on that same web page showed it ending with what we know as verse 13. These few differences between ancient codices dont call into question any doctrine of Christianity. Each will find their own way. It was not something that they had to work out..DID HE or DIDNT HE? And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Thanks. Sinaiticus has 9000 passages differently than Textus Receptus. -Thus proving anything Godly about Christianity is bogus. This is also the text that agrees with more than 95% of the Bible Manuscripts in Koine (common) Greek. Thanks hope i will learn alot in this websiteBut i want to ask who translated The Amplified bible version? Corrupt Path - The ' Minority Text' consists of only 5% of existing manuscripts. now thus they spoke to Christ. Strange where you find some of BC assertions of the immortality of the soul. Did the Ancient Israelites Think Children Were People. It is one of the four great uncial codices. terrible things draw near. Why not do an article as well featuring Whats included in Codex Sinaiticus which includes Jesus exalted position in Revelation, being referenced as the Son of God in many other parts of the gospels, the fact that Mark leaves with someone announcing Jesus resurrection, the fact that all 4 gospels and Pauls letters are there (all of which clearly spell out Jesus deity and identity as Risen Lord)and all of this from the 4th centuryand when compared to other manuscripts and documents from early church fathers, the Codex Sinaiticus only further confirms that early Christians viewed Jesus as God? Jews and Muslims to this day consider the destruction of their holy book to be a terrible sin, so Christian monks realising that they had a very misleading copy of the Bible on their hands would most likely act for the same reasons as I and in just the same way that I did.That very easily and practically explains Siniaticus and the explanation for Vaticanus is similar. I was fascinated by the contrast to Marks telling of the resurrection. The Textus Receptus is the text which the King James translators used. http://purebibleforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65. What is so important about the KJV being a translation from the Textus Receptus (received text)??? I find it amazing that you all believe in this nonsense. check out this documentary by Abduhla Films called Bridge To Babylon So I have only recently come across the codex sinaiticus, which has led me here, and Its been enlightening to read all of these comments and opinions, from all of you quite educated and well versed people. The text of Codex Sinaiticus differs in numerous instances from that of the authorized version of the Bible in use during Tischendorfs time. I will want a copy of the oldest new testament it is written how Jesus says it should be. Ive now forgotten where and cannot find it. If these two represent an older and more original text, how come they differ from each other so much? (..) 27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth (..) 30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRCVDmiAts. If I have 999, 999 dollar coins, one may conclude that I am a millionaire, even I might. Thank you also for the many useful links provided. Where can we find proof of the existence of God? However, the two authoritative fourth-century Greek manuscriptsCodex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanusboth end with Mark 16:8. if this is negative, then how is murder, rape, child abuse, greed classified? We wont,we will always make asumptions based in what we have and might never been correct. Then at the last, they show one instance when the Codex referred to the Son of God and said it is an addition, not original. The Apocripha/Deuterocanonicals is present in Sinaiticus. FREE ebook: The Holy Bible: A Buyer's Guide 42 different Bible versions, addressing content, text, style and religious orientation. Matthew 24/37 are you sure and how sure you are? The massacres are implied in Revelation, so this was written by John shortly afterwards, before Jerusalem fell to the Roman army.. Washingtonicus and one of its principle claims to fame is its particular addition to the last chapter. https://www.faraboveall.com/015_Textual/SinVat_Galatians.pdf It would enshrine the abominable concept that the church was without the most correct text for 1600 years. As a whole picture this breadth of 5,800 manuscripts agree with the gospel account. There is nothing when and how Mary Magdalena saw the Risen Christ, indicating, of course, it never happened. Hopefully their path will lead to righteousness worthy of Almighty Gods approval. All ready for the next generation of innocent and naive seekers for truth. gr. Raghaven..Yes then it must be true because you read it here. Tyndale? In other words what we have today is an incomplete Bible. The Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts are part of this group. Constantine Tischendorf Turns Two Hundred in the September/October 2015 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review, Stanley E. Porter contends that Tischendorf should be considered a hero, not a thief. The world of the Bible is knowable. Andrew says on 27 May 2016. And no less so today. But regarding Mark, I would to point out another consideration. For those who wish to expand their knowledge of Bible versions and what is missing, and more importantly why, I suggest you watch the attached Walter Veith videos on youtube as a starting point. What does it say? Learn more by reading Tischendorf on Trial for Removing Codex Sinaiticus, the Oldest New Testament.. If not, then the art critics interpretation is, From a Byzantine priority (Traditional Christian Church Textus Receptus reading) perspective, the Washingtonianus manuscript and the other early Alexandrian Uncials testify in favor of the early and consistent underlying text found within the Majority of Greek New Testament manuscripts. Mystery Babylon that the apostle John writes of in the Unveiling of Christ (Revelation). Codex Sinaiticus (A) Codex Sinaiticus discovered from the Monastery of Saint Catherine at Sinai 1844. No one was copying the thought in ant way, it now was a part of each hearers memory and as such will be changed a bit by each hearer. Codex Sinaiticus says that Jesus was moved with compassion in Mark 1:41. Vat., Vat. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.. But just to make sure, here's a comparison of both texts to the contents of Revelation 22:10-21 as printed in the Tyndale House edition of the Greek New Testament: It is now generally believed that both the Curetonian and Sinaitic manuscripts are extant copies of the old Syriac Gospels dating from the late second or early third century. They were first hand witnesses. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. But do it with a sincerely open mind. Not in Gods economy. But the people supporting the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus say that since Textus Receptus came after these two, many things must have been erroneously added to the texts. Every true child of GOD knows it and cannot live without it. On one side they say that the Textus Receptus scribes corrected the "Corrections" of the former two texts and hence KJV have those additional verses. Then that history was erased, and replaced with the gosple account agreeable to the era? Go read the 18th chapter. But I can tell you this; I use the King James Bible because 99% of all the manuscript evidence supports the Textus Receptus that underlies it. Who has bound the waters in His garments? They are significant. True followers of Jesus Christ are lead by the power of the Holy Spirit. Textual Variants that are Meaningful and Viable The Three Competing Theories - Overview New Testament Textual Families or "Text Types" The "Critical Text" Theory, aka "Reasoned Eclecticism The Rules of Textual Criticism According to Reasoned Eclecticism The Aland Rules of Textual Criticism Reasoned Eclecticism Methodology Revelation and discernment of all things spiritual are given to those who seek with all of their heart, mind and soul. If Satan can place doubt about the word of God in mans head, he has the war half won It is by faith and faith alone we can be saved I have personally been transformed from a drunkard, dope head, and whoremonger, into a son of God by faith and our so called flawed KJV. According to James Bentley, Tischendorf was not troubled by the omission of the resurrection in Mark because he believed that Matthew was written first and that Marks gospel was an abridged version of Matthews gospel. In the end I wonder,was this truly a omission,or could there be illness,war,fire or any other disasters?? Who is the envisioned recipient of this article? How does it compare to the MSS? In it we are given this assurance: The green grass dries up, the blossom withers, but the word of our God endures forever. (Isaiah 40:8; 1 Peter 1:25) The version known as the Peshitta plays a humble but important role in the accurate transmission of the Bibles message to all of humanity Much like all of the centuries of deception by the Roman Catholic Church that have come to light in the recent years of the forgeries and lies to obtain power over the people. Consider another example. I am still looking into this. This is just not possible, for there is no mention of the catastrophe in Rome when these apostles and most of the other Christians were cruelly massacred late in Neros reign. . Codex Sinaiticus was made in the 4th century on parchment using capital letters (a manuscript in all capitals is called an "uncial"). Now we all know what we have been told about the manuscripts upon which the Textus Receptus was based: they were "The feeblest of manuscript resources" and "Late medieval manuscripts of inferior quality" and so forth.But this collides with what we see in John 6:65-7:16, where minuscule 4 has less corruption than Codex Sinaiticus. Looking at the Codex, it has missing pieces like Mark 16:9-20 (additional information about the resurrection), but it still contains Mark 16:1-8, which is essential to the resurrection account. This Bible History Daily feature was originally published on August 12, 2015. God has stated in Deuteronomy, in Proverbs and in Revelation that anyone who adds to or subtracts from Gods word will be held accountable. Dating to the mid-fourth century C.E., Codex Sinaiticus is the oldest complete manuscript of the New Testament. The whole thing was written cerca 1832. Additionally. Please site such evidence if it exists. These all have been traced (by liberal and conservative scholars alike) to a probable source in Alexandria, Egypt, in the 2nd or 3rd century. Undoubtedly! A million is a million, not one less than a million. Textus Receptus Bible chapters shown in parallel with your selection of Bibles. He is either Lord, liar, or lunatic. I have a theory its actually 144 million or 1.44 billion. The greater danger is not so much whether a version states such things AT ALL, but how many times the total testimony is weakened. This is a famous variant in the mss, but Codex Sinaiticus attests compassion, not anger. Fact is you choose to suppress it, and by doing so you distance yourself from the Grace of GOD. Unbelievable! Historically, the Textus Receptus had long served as the primary Greek text for New Testament studies. However, Sinaiticus itself is not relevant, since the evidence is very strong that it was produced in the 1800s, which is why it is in such incredible flexible, supple condition, and the Leipzig pages are white parchment, contra the chemistry of parchment aging.. Codex Sinaiticus Authenticity Research There is growing forensic evidence that the Codex Sinaiticus is a 19th century forgery, sponsored by the Catholic Church, in order to undermine the Protestant Bible. Recently found my way back to God, after researching for many, many years other types of religions/beleifs. "Textus Receptus Only"/"Received Text Only" - This group holds the position that the traditional Greek texts represented in the Textus Receptus were supernaturally (or providentially) preserved and that other Greek manuscripts not used in this compilation may be flawed. Why are u sending any time on this fraud? Compare differences between the King James Version and Codex Sinaiticus. What have you got to lose? Thanks, BAR, for discussing it as it relates to Sinaiticus onlyl. Its the reason I continue to receive the articles! Constantine Tischendorf was a false teacher, like one of the ones Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah, warned about. Versions of the bible that are forever under scrutiny?. A piece here and a piece there but no even close to a complete speach. This modified version from 1885 has the name "Revised Version". Those manuscripts used as originals in this business wore out very quickly, those used in worship or sold on for private devotions lasted longer, but not for centuries unless unused. Space does not allow me point out the mutilation of Codex Vaticanus (B). Take as an example the so-called long conclusion of the Gospel of Mark, which in some Bibles follows Mark 16:8. personnaly have seen evangelists using NIV Codex Sinaiticus based bibles and in front of my eyes not but 3 different times this verse fulfilled. Just wish the world would realize that all organized religions are made up by mankind. I think Id remember if I saw someone die, then rise to life, walk into my room and had lunch with me. How else could it be that no copies of these manuscripts, not even on small fragments, have been discovered? I really enjoyed the side-by-side comparison; its clear that scribes through time have substantially modified the text. And they went on to another village. Most textual critics think Jesus words (in between) found in medieval Byzantine mss was a late addition to the text. This use of parchment as the leading writing material continued for almost a thousand years until it was replaced by paper. Of course I dont want to seem to imply that such inability to feel empathy is limited to Christians, Far from it. Making a case against Christianity based on the integrity of Scriptural reliability is a losing battle. Angry (orgistheis) is from codex D (Bezae) and some Old Latin manuscripts (so-called Western Text). Your email address will not be published. omits verses with a multitude of documented quotes by the earliest Pre-Nicene Christians including converts of the Apostles Paul, Peter, and John; all of whom certainly has autograph versions of the New Testament books. Most of the epistles are written before the gospels.
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