well, Im going to take care of L. G. I find Narlenes comments very telling. Yet, when Jared asked about the evidence possibly being tested in the future, Hobbs said he was against testing anything else and as far as he was concerned, the case was solved when Echols, Misskelly, and Baldwin were arrested. Also, he may have searched for the boys in the woods around 5pm when he dropped Pam off at work, also when Terry was unaccounted for. They lived only a few blocks from each other after all and LG already had a suspicious relationship with an older man. Also, although this may seem insignificant, Anthony Hollingsworth, LGs cousin, made a statement in May of 1993 that LG acts like he is gay. That leaves many years unaccounted for. RIDGE: OKAY, WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE WHO ALL WENT WITH YOU MOST THE TIME? ALRIGHT DID CHRIS AND MICHAEL DID THEY TELL YOU THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD GOT CAUGHT. D, J, and J's DNA was not. RIDGE: ABOUT TIME WAS IT YOU WENT TO TRY AND GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE? We know this because it takes 45 minutes to two hours to digest vegetables and we also know that the experts believe that the boys were murdered sometime around 7:00 pm. hilton garden inn oshkosh; was terry hobbs ever found. 8 A. The most significant of them all, was the specific act of taking the bikes to the bayou, which were very likely with the children inside the Blue Beacon Woods. It has baffled people for years because there was no evidence that the boys were sexually assaulted. Again, If we believe Billy Stewarts statement, the murders were predicated by a sexual act which could further explain why so many seemingly unnecessary acts occurred. On the right side, it appeared as if he had been hit with something that was flat. As Brent Turvey wrote in his profile of the criminal, the man who perpetrated this act against Christopher is a closet homosexual who carries shame about his homosexual tendencies. After his alleged attack on Chris, the beating of the boys continued. With what we know about Stevie and how much he feared Terry, it seems impossible that Stevie would have been the child who kicked Terry. (3) She claimed to have seen them near the spot they were murdered somewhere between 6:00 and 6:30. And if he witnessed the beginning of sexual activity, Stevie, unlike the others, would have known that if the three of them got caught spying they all would have been killed. He then told the others that all three had to die for what they had seen. A certain kind of way. The day when they finally made a grid to cover the entire woods and nearby field, was on either the 7th or 8th of May, a full two or three days after the murder. UNLESS YOU KNOW NOT GETTING UP THERE AND LOOKING AT IT ALL. It seems more likely that someonesawHobbs make a pass at Jacoby and then told Natalie Maines lawyers about it. (source). If she really didnotsee Damien on the road that night (which shedidnt) why was shesosure that Damien was not with his mother? As CrimeOnline previously reported, Damien Echols, along with friends Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelly, were convicted of murder in 1994, in connection with the murders of Chris Byers, Michael Moore, and Steven. They are also one of very few people,who hadfamily memberswho suspected that they were involved and actually contacted police as a result of those suspicions. Either way, its awfully peculiar that there is a question that implies something sexualabout the nature of Terry and Davids relationship. He was also a minister in the Apostolic Pentecost Church, a fundamentalist group. So the chance of them basing their statements off of the practically endless information found on the internet is nil. Its my personal opinion that the evidence presented here should put all debates to rest because both sides have at least some truth in their corner. Theres no debate about that because there were steep inclines on the sides of the ditch where all three bodies were placed, making it impossible that they were just tossed in from either the east or west bank. The first most essential piece of evidence came from Stevie, Michael and Chris other best friend, Aaron Hutchinson. [2] Judge Brian S. Miller dismissed the case and subsequently ordered Hobbs to pay legal fees incurred by the singer in the amount of $17,590. THAT THE FIVE MAN MAY HAVE CAUGHT THEM? The West Memphis Three are Damien Echols, Jessie Miskelley, and Jason Baldwin. VICKIE: ANY TIME MY CHILD DIDNT COME HOME ON TIME THATS WHERE I WOULD LOOK FOR HIMRIDGE: OKAY, YOU HAD BEEN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS? This is so hugely significant and yet lost on so many. In 1993 Bennie Guy and Billy Stewart were both very close with a mentally slow teenager named Buddy Lucas. David claims a little black girl told them the boys were heading to the woods. RIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS? : the alleged confessions of both Buddy and LG, Terry saw the boys spying and ordered the other three men to catch them. RIDGE: SO HOW ABOUT DO YOU KNOW STEVE, DID HE EVER GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU?AARON: UM, ONLY ONE TIMERIDGE: ONE TIME, WERE THEY, WERE YOU ALL WATCHING THE FIVE MEN DOWN THERE THAT TIME WHEN HE WENT WITH YOU?AARON: NO, HES NEVER WE NEVER TOLD HIM ABOUT IT. BLY HE WAS SUPPOSE TO GO MEET JESSIE MISSKELLEY OUT AT LAKESHORE. It is clear to many experts that the left side of Stevies face had been bitten by turtles. It would take another 14 years before he was even interviewed about his whereabouts that night. So although at least some experts said the boys were not punched, I dont believe thats true at all. Those who didnt know the case that well simply believed that Chris entire penis and scrotum had been cut off with a knife. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. What stands out to me, is that no one has ever suggested before that the injury to Chris began as a bite. Is there any possible reason why they wouldnt have stopped? However, since LG was wearing a tie that day and the alleged confessions state the teens wrestled, its my belief that LGs shirt and tie had been removed for the entire murder, which meant that it was clean. If he was correct about the drug dealer, he could have correct about the other allegations. There is both an interview and an affidavit signed by Jacoby and neither of those mention anything about Terry propositioning him. His alibi for the night of the murders was shaky (the friend he says he was with says he left for a while) and he acted strangely towards his wife when he went to pick her up from work, walking past her and not saying anything, just calling the police to report the boys missing. Hobbs may be awful, but nothing accounts for the beating and drowning that took place. Privacy Policy. For some reason, unknown to the public at least, Terry Hobbs was never questioned. It breaks my heart and I thought about it for 3 weeks straight after I got into the case. Allegedly, David Jacoby fell in his effort to catch the third child and in doing so, scraped his knee. Michael, being the first one attacked, was hit so violently and with such anger, that he was almost immediately rendered unconscious. UM, AND I WENT UP AND TALKED TO MS. MOORE AND SHE GOT AARON OUT OF CLASS. He claimed that along with his cousin Rex Heath, he gave Jessies dad the barbecued chicken and went home. Clemente emphasized that someone who wants to know why the children were killed would likely encourage any and all evidence testing, as its one step closer to understanding the heinous murder. I said, well the mommy is a liar aint she. They then picked Chris up (as evidence shows) and the three headed out on their bikes and skateboard, riding up 14th street right before 6pm. I highly doubt it. VICKIE: HE STAYED. Have you had a drug dealer named Ray? I dont believe when Terry first saw them that he intended to kill them. the tying up is part of what frames this as a punishment that crossed the line. RIDGE: FIVE TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN FIVE TIMES? WHAT DID YOU ALL HIDE AND WAIT FOR THEM? Thursday, Hobbs told Action News 5 he didn't do it. 1. Unfortunately, the police had such tunnel vision about the reason why they believe the murders had occurred and who they believed the perpetrators were, that they basically ignored what Aarons statements really revealed; they unwittingly lead Aaron away from helping them find the true killers. Just as the stripping of the clothes and the bites and stabs to groin; it all suggests a sexual element to this crime. The two teens apparently complied with Terrys demands and ripped the clothes off of the children. The reason for the prosecutions stance, I believe, is because the bitemark never matched Echols, Baldwin or Misskelley. I rewatched the paradise lost docs and in the last one, just before the murders, Pam had "kissed a Mexican" and Terry said that years later when he brought on the lawsuit with Natalie Maines. WE ALWAYS GOT A PLACE TO HIDE BEFORE THEY CAN GET THERERIDGE: WHERE DID YOU HIDE?AARON: WE HIDE ONE TIME WE HIDE BEHIND UM A TREE. Upon the delivery, I saw Mr. Hobbs holding hands with the same man who he was at my house with on May 5, 1993. Terry claims to anyone and everyone who has asked about that night, that he was almost frantically searching for Stevie from 5:00pm-9:00pm at night. But the deeper I dug, the more I realized that not only was there no evidence to discredit that these four men committed this murder, all the known evidence supports the notion that they actually did do it. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? When Narlene was interviewed she claimed to have dropped LG off at his home. When Terry arrived at Pams work, he did something very peculiar. Misskelly, who has a low IQ, reportedly gave detectives a false confession which helped a jury convict the three of murder. And in another statement made a week later, Aaron again says he believes his friends got caught spying on the men and one of them ordered the others to hold the boys while he killed them: AARON: NOBODY EVEN KNOWS THAT.. THAT I KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. Another indicator that points to Terrys guilt and the truth in the alleged Buddy/LG statements, lies with what was discovered on Michael Moores body. (1) Its possible that the by the time the men could have entered into the woods, the three eight year old boys were already there hiding. In other words, he was likely being molested. RIDGE: OKAY. Additionally, approximately a month before the murders, a friend of Chris Byers brother claimed to have seen Michael and Chris with their pants down, simulating a sex act in the exact way that homosexual men preform sex; one boy was standing up and bent over and the other boy was standing behind him and they both had their pants down. Is it just a coincidence that Buddy mentions that the boys were hit on the back of the head, and that, unknown to the public, all three were in fact hit in the back of the head? As mentioned earlier, Terry Hobbs, like John Mark Byers before him, was fingered as a suspect in 2012's West of Memphis after a hair found at the crime scene was genetically matched to him. It makes absolutely no sense that she would have brought five people along with her at almost 10pm at night to pick someone up. Lastly, Stevie branch apparently told his cousin that Terry was molesting him and Amanda. Pam begins making dinner and getting ready for work (source). WE NEED TO GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. thanks for the recommendation!! The clubhouse was a spot where Aaron, Chris and Michael would go play in the Blue Beacon Woods. Hobbs was calling loudly at the children and ordering them to return to his house. The four men see the young boys spying, one man in particular, the stepfather of one child, orders the others to grab them; he flies into a rage and hits the boys, and the attack leads to murder. There was evidence to suggest that Aaron was telling the truth about the clubhouse because wooden planks were in fact found and collected by police. 92.According to L.G., Mr. Hobbs snapped and hit the boy with severe force in the head two or three times. Sorry in advance to those of you who are tired of reading about this case! Aaron adds a few more details to what the boys had seen down in those woods: RIDGE: UM, DO YOU THINK THOSE MEN WERE CRAZY? Expelled From Law School, Dad Convicted of Mom & Brothers Murder. In fact, she too brings up that Buddy was working that day as if that proved anything. A Calhoun County man has been missing for weeks now, leaving his family searching for answers. . More specifically, turtles had bitten and clawed at Chris penis and scrotum as he lay for 18 hours in a muddy, watery ditch. After Stevie was gone, he expected her to get over it right away and said she was neglecting her wifely duties. Michael was later stripped, perhaps so he would not stand out. Because she was lying and both she and LG knew it. Although I have gone into great detail describing how this murder took place, in reality, the experts believed it would have only taken around 20 minutes to carry the murder out. Jacoby knows something. These statements have protected Hobbs for seven years. I theorize they then cleaned up the blood from Chris injuries by scraping up the mud, grass, leaves and blood and throwing it into the drainage ditch. After he allegedly hit back, he thenreally had a motive to kill. (, In both Billy and Bennies statements, i.e. After doing so, they most likely would have walked down south in the ditch till the water was the deep enough and also not directly beside the crime scene. WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WHAT WAS IT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT DAY? No. Dixie stated that she knew Richards car and that it was not his. It also would make sense that Terry would carry shame, deep shame, if he were secretly homosexual. Its extremely rare that a murder would take place directly after sexual activity that was unrelated to the victim, but if it did happen, it wouldnt be a stretch to assume that it couldcontribute to a perpetrators desire to strip the victim naked, tie them them up in a sexual and demeaning manor and then attack their genitals. The group also stated that Echols submitted a FOIA request over 18 months ago, but the request went unanswered, which is a violation of Arkansas state law. Echols ultimately ended filing a lawsuit against the police department. But what we found over the years of investigating and in the process of creating the series people, their memories fade. Mark Byers stated that Terry arrived at his home sometime after Meeks left. NARLENE: She meant the mommy, the daddy and the son,(LG) she said I dont know whats going on over there and she said, they are making me nervous, shes a christian girl, she said and I got out of there, I said yeah, I get bad feelings around them too. I just find it amazing that she let this slip out and the police never even caught on. Apparently, Stevie had injuries to his penis that he believed were self inflicted. Ifvery conservativelyone in every 10-20 people is gay or bi, and the police force is made up of 20 people (just a fun number) one of those cops is gonna like dick. Lets begin with Buddy. . That night and the next morning, families of the missing children with the help of neighbors and police, searched the Robin Hood Hill woods, the Blue Beacon woods and the surrounding areas. Terry Hobbs was reported missing from Kinard on April 20, but . 5:30pm According to both Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby, Terry and Amanda show up at the Jacobys at approx. I have recently taken a huge interest in this case, and found that there is misinformation literally everywhere. When suspicion was surrounding Buddy and he was interviewed by police about allegedly having a pair of bloody shoes, Buddy turned the attention to Jessie Misskelley. Jackie Jr. survived the shooting, but died years later as a result of complications pertaining to his injuries. Now Im back to believing it was TH. LG was actually a suspect from the very beginning, and its actually really shocking to me that he was not further investigated. Either way, either one or two of the perpetrators decided it was necessary to actually get into the water to submerge the boys. (1) Strangely, Buddy first says that he has a man who will testify that he worked with Buddy all that day and then later on in the conversation, Buddy claims that his boss will testify that he was at work on the 5th. A bitemark on Stevies face would lend credibility to the statement that another bite occurred on Chris genital area. AND UH, HE SAID AFTER WE HAD LEFT THE MOORES COMING OUT OF THEIR DOOR HE TOLD ME MAMA LETS GO TO THE CLUB HOUSE. It appeared as though Christopher was tied up by one person, most likely David Jacoby, in my opinion, since his knots were all the same. I admit that when I first read the alleged Buddy/LG confessions I was skeptical. I'm sure he got it the worst from Terry, too. The kind of man who abuses his children for sexual gratification sees them as an extension of himself, so it's essentially masturbatory for the narcissistic pedophile. Terry Hobbs was basically unaccounted for from 5pm to approx. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. Even Aarons mother, Vicki, supported these statements in her first interview with police. I truly believe the real killer(s) are still out there and it's not the WM3. And someone like that can lie and lie and lie and lie, rigfht to your fuckin' face,because narcissism is about protecting the self-myth. Why in the world were the two men (or Terry alone) searching for the boys when it was light out if Terry had already said that Stevie could stay out till 8:00 pm? They were so sure that the murders were part of a satanic ritual done by teenagers, and were so desperate to make sure that Aarons answers revealed that, that eventually Aarons statements began to get more and more fantastical and implausible. Terry Hobbs was a violent man, this is proven and well documented, and the way Douglass pictures it, he likely wanted to punish or humiliate one or all of the boys and it went too far, leading him to murder them so they wouldn't be able to tell anyone. RIDGE: SO HOW ABOUT DO YOU KNOW STEVE, DID HE EVER GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU? JMB really did love them even though he had a temper and did admit to corporal punishment. Do you frequent gay clubs? Coincidence? HES NEVER SEEN THEM, AARON: CAUSE IT WAS ON A FRIDAY WHENEVER HE WENT DOWN THERE WITH US. If the bikes had been found immediately, then the focus would have very quickly zeroed in on the people who were last with the victims. If the cop has power, it's easy. VICKIE: IT WAS COPSRIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? Furthermore, in the alleged confessions, Terry states: The bodies cant be found, at least not yet.. (Narlene Interview) Additionally, she lied about seeing Damien and her niece, Domini walking away from the crime scene sometime around 9:30 the night of the murders. After the boys were attacked and stripped of their clothes, they were tied up. When they returned the four men continued to submerge the boys clothes with sticks and, finally, hastily threw the last items of clothing in the water as it grew dark. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This is where you ask yourself why Jacoby would lie to protect Hobbs and also why he would openly admit he lied in 2013. The day after the boys went missing before they were even found, Michael Moore's parents asked Aaron's mother, Vickie Hutchinson, if Aaron could be removed from school to help find the boys. Which is right in line with why this attack would have occurred. 2 Q. Her relay of the conversation seems to reveal that Narlene is talking to LG as if they both know that Damien is guilty. In 1993, he was married to Pamela Hobbs and was the step father of Stevie Branch. The removal of the clothes was a very significant act. I believe he wanted to punish them because he faultedthemfor spying. (Another theory is that the injury to Stevies penis came from oral sex. RIDGE: ALRIGHT. (1, 2,) He originally claims to have asked his aunt for a ride home, that she said no, and he left and began to walk home. VICKIE: IN MIDDLE AFTERNOONRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? Several years back there was a rumor that one of TH nephews said he was in a room with TH, DJ and some others as they smoked weed and did some things to each other sexually. I am scared and I am fearful . This is actually supported by various testimony, which I will bring up later. Essentially, the statements made by Dr. Perretti are not much different than if Pam took her son to a doctor, had him examined and was then told by the doctor that Stevie had injuries related to sexual abuse. Though the family was well-to-do, Terry was having financial problems when the three children were murdered in 1993. In fact, Richard and his roommate both admitted that they didnt even see LG that night. Then, I believe that Terry began to attack Stevies face by biting him and even possibly striking his face with the corner of the board. In fact, in 2012 the animal hair found on the boys bodies was tested; revealing that the animal hair was from both canines and felines. 1. And uh Steve was suppose to come by (not audible) before dark I thank it was bout yeah it was bout this time a year it git dark around 8 oclock or so, and he said he told em to be back before dark. We can assume this because of the 6:00/6:30 sighting from the service road. He was most likely placed near the tree becase one of the perpetrators used the tree as support in order to enter the water. What this shows us is that Jacoby knows the truth. Only two people's DNA was ever found at the scene. Instead, defense attorneys say, the tests found DNA from Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of one of the murdered boys. 7 Driver? WHAT DID YOU ALL HIDE AND WAIT FOR THEM?AARON: YEAH (YES) WILL WE ALWAYS. You may be the judge of the that. She yelled for him to get out of her home. In the second statement, Narlene describes to police a conversation she had with LG outside of the police station right before a police interview. Those who believe they are innocent claim it was a witch hunt due to Satanic Panic. VICKIE: HE STAYED. ( source) One of the most significant pieces of evidence to support this allegation comes from the medical examiner who did Stevies autopsy. Terry Hobbs would later state that he shot Jackie Jr. in self-defense. Ok, now kiss. This is all supported by Mark Byers testimony. I have a very strong suspicion that Narlene lied about dropping LG off at home and there is ample evidence to support this. West Memphis Police Officer, Bryn Ridge found Michael Moore first, just south of the crooked tree that juts out from the ground in the photo on the far left. AARON: MICHAEL AND CHRIS SAID NOT TO TELL NOBODY, RIDGE: UM, DO YOU THINK THOSE MEN WERE CRAZY? He actually interfered in a police investigation and he admitted it publicly. Left: Buddy Lucas Right: LG Hollingsworth. This case is so terrifying. According to Terrys ex wife, Terry Hobbs first wife had claimed in their divorce papers that he molested their son. This would make the Ballard sighting of 6:30 next to impossible if not impossible, considering the boys were found in those woods and the time of death was most likely 7pm. I believe that she knew that LG was somehow involved in the murders. RIDGE: DOING NASTY STUFF, WHERE DID YOU SEE THEM DOING THIS STUFF? When police were searching for the boys on the fifth, they were not inspecting a crime scene, they were simply trying to find three boys. On top of Terry possibly molesting Stevie and being very jealous of him, I've no doubt Pam kissing another man and then the subsequent murders is just glaring motive. If that is true, then that is more evidence to support Billys statements as being factual. It's sickening because I think everyone forgets the innocent boys that will never have justice. Even if the dogs had not licked up blood, their presence in the woods could mean that their fur would have already been on the ground where the boys bodies were placed when discovered. She was completely off in her description of the way they looked and the way they were dressed. And keep in mind how high the possibility is that Narlene lied about dropping LG off and what that might mean. RIDGE: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DEAD ON? They both have bias, so I think its important to keep that in mind. He also claimed that Jessie said he had punched a couple in the back of the head. Not only did Billy Stewart allege to have seen David and Terry kiss two different times, but he also claims to have delivered drugs to both men at a gay bar called J-Wags. One of them even went up and knocked on the door and spoke to Michaels sister, Dawn. This is significant because no one else has ever theorized that Chris was actually bitten in his scrotum; its a completely new allegation. When the boys bodies were discovered, there were found in the Blue Beacon Woods right next to the alleged clubhouse where the boys played. The truth of what really occurred on May 5th, 1993 has not been completely solved and no suspects have been arrested. Apparently, LG walked in and asked for his cousin Dominis telephone number. There is no way that if this really occurred, Terry would have allowed those boys go home to tell their parents that, not only was Terry Hobbs in the woods having sex with men and teenagers, but he punched his stepsons friend in the head for catching him. RIDGE: WHAT DID THE CLUB HOUSE CONSIST OF? I think David Jacoby made a mistake/ a slip when he claimed that he saw the three boys, two on bicycles and one on a skateboard on the street when Terry showed up.
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