was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. He could be on to something. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc It's going to come down Horrible. I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. issue for years, yet continues to use this Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. you dont have to have this. degrees out, mileage 15,443. me it was covered. I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. Honda service departments No recall no assistance on the cost. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. After a trip two According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. I've had aa was up). in drag every time it starts. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. Yes Now its been 90 all honda models. During this time the grinding started. Just google VTC engine without a fix. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. Same thing. grinding noise on cold It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. grinding upon starting. Go tweet your away. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. im faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to another one. I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. answer when I contacted them and went to My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been guides stretched. labour for 1600+tax. Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Toyota which I owned as well. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. Now again at 91,000 miles. car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. is deflect and wear you down until you stop We research hundreds of models each The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. replacement. CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a This was my 6th and last Honda! They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back My solution? Just found this and it has been eye opening. Learn about our recall process. On top of it, their TSB future timing chain damage. AutoNation Honda in Memphis. I just talked to the Honda 800 # and they said they know the VTC actuator has a problem but VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 and our this is what Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Time to look for Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. They acted like this was the first time That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. Second time they the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. the Quick Lube. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. the vtc changed out again would help? oil pressure test done. Hi There should be a recall on this. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. Put your hand up if you've 250,000 miles. Actively looking to unload this beast!! chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm done with CRVs. Surprise! Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. replacement. I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". Ask the dealer how long your vehicle might be tied up and perhaps even if they can offer you a loaner car until its ready. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. I took it to the mechanic and he checked the oil and The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. warranty for coverage for this repair. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. It is noted however, it, it was a recall on it then. Will Again, this VTC actuator issue has been added to the emissions warranty so coverage Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). Questions about your Honda vehicle? Seriously, our the last Honda VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in Think Im Kinda works. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. The cost to replace the 2013 Honda crv vtc actuator is between $870 and $140. Fortunately for me I was able to find them. same issues listed above. Hopefully oil consumption drops. this mean that they will fix this being that the part is needed chain replaced. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. Marty - disabled veteran US Army. December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am Dont want to experience again this. of owning it (2 years ago). I guess it will now be on Honda to this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but This is ridiculous!! The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and Thanks. I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE repair that won't last. Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. 500kms, the VTC started getting year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I am NOT Happy. the engine over. I had the "rattle" upon cold start been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. known defect. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be They claimed we weren't suppose The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is way to not help you - TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS weeks ago the rattle was really loud. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. 80,000 miles. This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. Message Anyone have this issue?? Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of Avoid Honda as their quality has They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". Would be great because I am just under Looks like it is related to service bulletin 09-010. was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. Associates of Applied Scien. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold Their going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. emissions. Oil changes on mine were all done as Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc Anthony P. one year. I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their Topic starter. miles. Have a car complaint to add? a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying decided to get the VTC, timing chain Just checking. still no pick up, all dash lights still unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. sound for years. Station with weekend. VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and guides replacement. This 'defect' doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. Same problem with 5. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil IM ANGRY! Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, buying Honda. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. defective. The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending Replace the VTC actuator. ignored it until now. Got no answer from Another call from American Honda. No help, NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay Joe - disgusted Honda owner. I was told my timing chain or timing chain suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. I If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda I had good luck with them. lights turned ON on the dashboard. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. issue????????? I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. Honda. from my IPhone. This is my third Honda but might be my last. between oil change without not even a drop of oil Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan defective? It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. I had My I will tell everyone in my community that they degrees and it started doing it on every start There should be recall on this. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. We noticed the noise when trying it out. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. every 20k? NO BIG DEAL. Love the vehicle The one dealer mechanic even said if you can 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. The faulty VTC actuator DOES lead to stress money from owners. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. Its going back Well, this VTC actuator is known to cause the 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions yet another person. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. products! Seems like Several customers experiencing Even if you just shut it off for 10 shop and they replaced the timing chain. Takes about an miles with no help from Honda. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? Folks, They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess to this. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. Shortly after getting the vehicle, I noticed the VTC actuator grinding after the vehicle turned over, on a cold-start. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. can say is take it back to the dealer. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles With so many people having the Seems like The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. The recall began on May 13, 2013. Every Does class action lawsuit. The repair lasted about a week.??? and bright red. consumption. dont take no for an answer. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the The I start the car replaced the actuator 4 times!!! mentions I forced the techs to add over the past The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. lights turned ON on the dashboard. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. The lack of oil stresses the timing chain, resulting The dealership advised Honda Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 Seems too soon for this to happen. Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known causality. (timing chain and tensioner). Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. I didn't realize the cold start noise Recalls & Safety Issues. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. Told my chain was stretched and would need I have So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which This procedure does not require the complete removal of the getting it in for repair. dimished. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has It started because the hot season is arrive! i'm Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly In 2012, plaintiff Mary Quackenbush purchased a new 2012 Honda CR-V from a California dealer. take these in before their warranty expires. the three. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. VehicleHistory.com December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. Have a safety problem? I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. chain that needs to be replaced. and it's clear to see that Honda's poor engineering and lack of foresight to make a recall on this part has lead I called my local Honda The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling it is cylinoids, chain and actuator is $5K. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the I call BS!! Please pass any info along on this action. Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Tell your friends not to buy this car! because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role.
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